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Author Topic: Department of Veterans Affairs Easing Rules for Users of Medical Marijuana  (Read 444 times)
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2010, 10:24:20 AM »

Quit poundin a fuckin drum and read Colo HB1284. You wanted legalization and you fuckin got it! Now take your perfect fuckin image and live with it! Hope your pockets are fat for the politicians! Fuckin bitches screamed legalization in Colo cause medical is all fucked so the goddamn govt fixed it...for the right price you don't have to be a patient or caregiver and can SELL all the fuckin herb you want to those who can't afford it!



Goin on bout I can do this and the farmers can do that...all with hemp! BULLSHIT! Not a fuckin farmer one, let alone ANY of us, will EVER be able t afford the shit needed for mass hemp cultivation. Oh yeah, like the fuckin politicians you believe pot can turn the deficit around and get America outta debt. Sadly, when China owns OUR farms for loanin the money to manufacture all that is needed...you still won't have SHIT!


Done with this subject as I don't argue with naïve. My ol lady and I have more interaction with the cannabis community on the whole than ANYONE in my county or surroundin counties...and yes, even the fuckin state! We see it, breathe it, and educate it. We talk and associate with all facets of the communities...legal, medical, politicos, leo, faith based, general...all aspects of the community and people. What Canna is doin (beatin a legalization drum) is gettin quite old. It equates to havin it SHOVED and FORCED. People want to be educated...not forced fed. And sayin that WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE for this and that reason is just that...force feeding. Plant a seed and watch it grow...plant a transplant and watch it waver. Like I said, I'm done with this topic. Much love and respect to our veterans who can and will benefit from this huge win for the medical community! Bok chao!
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2010, 10:27:47 AM »

And to clarify, we do more with the community in our state than anyone else in our county...and surroundin counties. Sorry if that was misread.
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Soooooo damn far behind......


« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 10:48:32 AM »

This is great for the vets.

Though .......if you look at how the US legalized tobacco, I see the same with cannabis.HB 1284 here in Colorado and the BS happening in California show us this. They are industrializing cannabis and selling it to the highest bidder. The only people who will be legal to grow and sell are the ones who can put out the $200,00 + per year for the "right".

Legalization will do wonders for access yes, you'll find it everywhere....but, you will not have the right to grow it yourself and will hbe forced to pay the prices the companies who can with the money decide to sell it for, along with whatever illegal taxes the govt puts on it.

Legalization is nothing but $$$$
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2010, 11:04:16 AM »

decriminalization, n.  The legislative act or process of legalizing an illegal act. -- decriminalize

legalize, vb1. To make lawfull; to autorize or justify by legal sanction.  2. To imbue with the spirit of the law; to make legalistic.

Both definitions are from "Blacks Law Dictionary" Seventh Edition

Decriminalization = Legalization...  They are 2 side of the same coin by definition and legal essence.

do YOU have the money to alter a raw source into textiles, the farmers the machinary to harvest ACRES of hemp?, the water in a HIGH DESERT to maintain and cultivate hemp to maturity?

This Q has ZERO relevance to the issue.  With decrim/legalization the machinery would be developed.

It's the attitude that "MJ CAN ONLY BE USED FOR MEDICINE" that splits this movement and keeps legalization from moving forward.

the "MEDICAL ONLY" attitude also shows selfishness and a desire to control those that cant afford the "licenses"!  All I hear is a greedy grower when peeps talk decrim/legalize for medical only!

If it was decriminalized there would be NO criminal penalties associated with it!
Tell that to the peeps that have to give the Commonwealth of Massachusetts $100 when they get caught with MJ!

To finish this...

I just re-read the article and it seems nothing has changed as a result of this "change in policy".  My bro has been telling his docs at the VA he's been using MMJ for a few years.  Only difference I see is that NOW the docs can put it in your record as medicine rather than "dope", as they typically like to call it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 11:19:50 AM »

I will admit it would be nice for our Navy to source rope/ line at home and not China or Russia. Canna you are very idealistic, but that is not a bad thing. It has been beat out of me! As long as the current gov't, and by that I mean the gov't that has been in power for the last 150 or more years is allowed to continue, I do not think we will see significant change. I do feel it is possible, but the system needs a complete overhaul. From the ground up. I don't believe you will argue with me on that!

Unfortunately  I think it is going to take the gov't turning arms on a significant portion of the population for the people to react. It's coming and it needs to be televised or it will be swept under. Just my opinion!
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2010, 08:41:44 AM »

I whole heartedly agree with ya BG.

Our nation is in a world of shit and the only way to repair from this point is to have another revolution!  I see it coming...  I see what the Gov wolves want to do to us "sheep" and I don't like.

Until the time comes to take up arms, in defense, we must live as free as we can.  Freedom isn't had by following the law.  Freedom is an idea that is practiced regardless of the law!

LAWS, to me, are one mans attempt to control another.  I've mentioned it before and here it come again...  LAWS are intended to regulate businesses that are incorporated by the State or Fed.  Personal businesses (right to labor) are NOT the original targets of ANY laws in these United States of America.  That is one of the reasons that direct income taxes laid upon the "People" are illegal.

"THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED"  cause the powers that be will not allow it for fear of the people figuring out their true agenda.

Here's a lil something of interest...
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew cannabis on their plantations.  Jefferson, while envoy to France, went to great expense - and even considerable risk to himself and his secret agents - to procure particularly good hemp seeds smuggled illegally into Turkey from China.  The Chinese Mandarins (political rulers) so valued their hemp seeds that they made its exportation a capitol offense.
The Emperor Wears No Clothes, pg 1-2

WITHOUT HOPE THERE IS NO FUTURE!
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2010, 09:27:28 AM »

So Cannabasour, you vote every time we can? I mean vote politically?
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2010, 09:32:59 AM »

So Cannabasour, you vote every time we can? I mean vote politically?

They won't let me because I'm NOT a US Slave... uhhh... Citizen... Wink  You have to have a Socialist Security Number to vote!
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2010, 09:44:22 AM »

So you voluntarily give your right to vote and then want to have a say when shit goes south? Not the way it is, amigo. You can cuss and bitch people and their thrown votes when YOU vote too. Then it is all proactive. Someone who don't vote, for whatever reason, shouldn't say shit bout shit. Like politicians sendin kids to war...don't work even though it happens. Combat veterans make the best leaders in war...no pencil pushers. Same to be said bout the difference to voters. Want your voice heard? Don't preach it to a choir...VOTE. Than you can say you did something other than bump gums and bitch.
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2010, 10:07:05 AM »

Like I said...

They won't let me because I'm NOT a US Slave... uhhh... Citizen... Wink  You have to have a Socialist Security Number to vote!

MY VOICE IS MY VOTE!  DONT PREACH TO ME ABOUT POLITICS!

Get a law dictionary and a few other references so you can sound credible cause quite frankly...  When you say you are done and you return to argue you are only lying to yourself.

"ANY LAW THAT RUNS REPUGNANT TO THE CONSTITUTION IS VOID"
Marbury v Madison (1803, and this decision has NEVER been overturned)
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2010, 10:09:10 AM »

OH YEAH...

and if you don't think what I say is credible then stop responding to my posts, 4CCR!
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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2010, 11:14:50 AM »

You waived your right to vote by excludin yourself from a SSN...they didn't take it from you. You GAVE your right up to a voice...sit back down and hit the bong. Your vote is your voice in politics.
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2010, 08:40:10 AM »

WRONG!  I didn't waive my RIGHT to vote.  It was TAKEN from me illegally when I chose to no longer participate in the SOCIALIST SECURITY SYSTEM!  It is a violation of the Privacy act of 1974 for ANYBODY to use a SSN as an ID!  As mater of fact...  It is a violation of your 4th Amendment right for ANY business to require a SSN for ANYTHING... Especially to get a job!
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